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dcrider

I just got the User Newsletter about ODTouch. Followed the link to your website so I could look at it more. All of the links under App Details are broken (404 not found) except the Perio link.

dcrider

OpenDental.exe accepts command-line arguments. See their documentation here: https://www.opendental.com/manual/commandline.html

dcrider

Are generated but unassigned keys charged each month, or are they only charged after being entered at the practice's OpenDental installation?

dcrider

FormOpenDental.CurPatNum always has a reference the currently selected Patient's PatNum (provided one is selected)

dcrider

Thank you for the clarification.

If a customer's API key is disabled by the developer, I'm assuming all requests are returned with 401 - Unauthorized, is that correct? Does the apikey table also get updated when that happens?

dcrider

It is my understanding that in order to call /queries/ShortQuery to be able to get the CustApiKey that I would first need to have the CustApiKey in order to add it to the authorization header.

Is there a way to get that key with just the developer's key?

dcrider

Is it currently possible to send the client's API key as a command-line arg to a custom bridge? I didn't see it listed on the Output File page (https://opendental.com/manual/programlinkoutputfile.html) Or is there a better way to access that from a custom bridge so I don't have to keep a copy of it ...

dcrider

Just an FYI for any other devs out there, Visual Studio 2022 fails to load all forms in the Designer view, but VS 2019 loads it just fine.

dcrider

As of right now, about 25 offices in 4 States.

dcrider

That makes me feel a bit better. We have around 8 Plugins we've developed in-house that do a variety of things, but our 3 largest we call "Calculators". 1 is used year-round and the other 2 are for seasonal promotions we run. They have their own UI and based on user selections we programmatically cr...

dcrider

In which version should we expect popup messages for Plugins developed in-house that leverage OD code such as PayPlanCharges.Insert()?

dcrider

That's awesome to hear! Git is much more common, so being able to review the code in a familiar environment will be a huge benefit. Please let us know as soon as the public repo is available and where we can find it.

dcrider

Depends on the hook you're trying to use, but typically one of the parameters passed in is CurPat. If it's not you can usually get it from the static call to FormOpenDental.CurPatNum

dcrider

Awesome, thanks for the feedback!

dcrider

Does the tool provided by OpenDental on this page (https://www.opendental.com/manual/mariadb.html) install MariaDB, or does that need to be set up and configured prior to running the tool?

dcrider

Just curious to know if, for example, 21.2 will be able to receive updated CDT codes if we're only able to move to that version around the new year. Do those live in the database, or are the hard-coded into a specific version of OpenDental?

dcrider

Will the conversion to MariaDB be initiated with a future version upgrade, or is that something we would need to make a decision on and handle ourselves? We target mid-January for our annual upgrades and I want to make sure we start early enough if the conversion is something we need to handle ourse...

dcrider

https://www.opendental.com/OpenDentalDocumentation20-4.xml#recall DateDue: It will usually be the same as DateDueCalc unless user has changed it. DateDueCalc: It can be blank (0001-01-01) if no appropriate triggers. Someone from OD will probably have to chime in as to what exactly those triggers are...

dcrider

Thank you

dcrider

For some reason I don't have access to the API forum. How does one get access? Below is a link to the screen I get when I click on the API forum.

https://imgur.com/a/KDDGZTF

dcrider

OpenDental won't make that change. You have to use reflection to get the method you want. It's a pain and not a very elegant solution, but OpenDental doesn't want to budge on that.

dcrider

If you can get an SSD, always go SSD.

dcrider

I figured it would be a long shot, but thank you for the response.

That's pretty surface-level for most of our plugins. We really like being able to customize every bit of the workflow with plugins. We have over two dozen centers across 4 States, so deep customization is important to us.

dcrider

I would also like OpenDental.ControlAccount.ToolBarMain_ButtonClick to become public as that's the best way I've found to start the payment process using your existing code. Basically, we have a process to walk our patients through financing options and at the end they can make a payment. So on our ...

dcrider

Would it be possible for OpenDental.FormPayPlan.FillCharges() to be changed from private to public? One of our plugins overrides the default FormPayPlanChargeEdit with a custom one and I've noticed that I need to call FillCharges() in order for the UI to update after a change. I currently use the fo...

dcrider

Thank you for that detailed response.

dcrider

Are there any plans to move away from WinForms and .NET Framework? I personally would love to take advantage of the speed improvements provided in .NET Core (preferably .NET 5, but I know that's a big jump) and some newer language features in C# 8.0 such as Tuple patterns and nullable reference types.

dcrider

How different is the functionality?

dcrider

Wow, that was fast! Thank you!

dcrider

Please add the following hook to FormAbout:

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Plugins.HookAddCode(this,"FormAbout.Load_end");

dcrider

Please let us know which version this was implemented in so we can being testing in order to upgrade.

dcrider

I'm sure you already have some ideas, but this might be helpful: https://stackoverflow.com/a/6457611

dcrider

This is happening on instances of OD that have been upgraded to 20.4.45

This prevents us from updating DLLs unless we remote into each computer (we have 26 offices in 4 States) and kill the process manually. This needs to be fixed.

dcrider

I can confirm that clicking Stop in Visual Studio does NOT kill the process

dcrider

Thank you!

dcrider

I'm having difficulty finding a link between a Payment and a PaymentPlan. Is there a more accurate way than looking it up by PatNum and assuming the PayAmt will be the same as the amount on the corresponding PayPlanCharge? Cash patients, for example, may not make a payment when the scheduled date ar...

dcrider

My apologies. I have two versions on my computer and I must have been looking at the older version. The one that is already in 20.4 is acceptable.

dcrider

I would like to request the following hooks: Plugins.HookAddCode(this,"FormPayment.butCancel_Click_end"); Plugins.HookAddCode(this,"FormPayPlanCredits.butCancel_Click_end"); Plugins.HookAddCode(this,"FormPayPlanCredits.butOK_Click_end", _patCur, _payPlanCur, _listPayPlanEntries); Plugins.HookAddCode...

dcrider

I had to clear the VlaueString for the WebServiceServerName preference so it would let me update, but I got it working.

dcrider

Wonderful, thank you!

dcrider

Is there a script you can provide to update the database tables from one version to the next? We're currently on 19.3 and would like to move to 20.4, but I'd rather not have to go through each table, identify the differences, and write the changes myself if I can avoid it. Currently I'm building bot...

dcrider

I would like the following hook added please. This hook needs to be after the if(inputBox.ShowDIalog()!=DialogResult.OK) check. There is currently one right before that call, but I also need one after to verify the value entered in some very specific use-cases. Plugins.HookAddCode(this,"ContrAccount...

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Does anyone have a way to update custom plugins without requiring a restart of OpenDental? I'm not entirely sure it's possible, but it would make my life a ton easier and google hasn't been helpful thus far in my research. We have about 25 locations across 4 States and sometimes I need to deploy a f...

dcrider

Please add

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Plugins.HookAddCode(this, "FormPayPlanCredits.Load_end", _payPlanCur);

dcrider

I may not have been clear in my original post. However, business requirements have changed negating my need for this solution.

dcrider

Yes, I've done that. Now I would like to perform a click on one of the two other buttons depending on their selection.

Basically I want my code to DO the clicking, not just act on a button being clicked.

dcrider

Usually buttons have a PerformClick() method, however, I've noticed that ODToolBarButtons do not have such a method. I have a popup that makes our teammates make a choice. Choice A should programmatically click the Payment button and Choice B should open a custom form we created, but that has a butt...

dcrider

I think I answered my own question. I probably want to use ContrFamily.RefreshModuleScreen_end instead

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I would like to add a column to ContrFamily.splitSuperClones.gridFamily. Would the plugin that already exists at "ContrFamily.ModuleSelected_end" be the hook I should access? I usually work with forms that have hooks in the Load method, but I noticed that top-level controls like ContrFamily don't ha...

dcrider

I understand. Thank you for your response.

dcrider

Long story short, I got a message from our rep at CareCredit and he told me "The CareCredit edition of Open Dental is scheduled to be released before the end of this month." but he said to ask you guys about the more technical details. Is this a plugin that we can download and add to our instances, ...

dcrider

It must be something with my code that's keeping the last patient; the patNum passed in is only ever the currently selected patient, as expected

dcrider

Here's the issue. When I select a patient, then click my button and interact with it in any way (i.e. fill in a textbox or click a button), then close my form, select a different patient and click my button, I get the patNum of the previously selected patient, then the currently selected patient. An...

dcrider

Thank you for the update.

dcrider

I have a plugin overriding LaunchToolbarButton(long patNum), however I might be using it incorrectly. If a user has switched patients at all before clicking my button, all previously selected patNums are passed in one at a time. I have logic checking for certain criteria that fails for some patients...

dcrider

I'll look into that, thank you.

dcrider

I'm already using a plugin. However, the methods that I think I want to use, are private and do not have hooks. I want to know if there is a recommended method/hook for creating payments, or if I need to request hooks to be added.

dcrider

We have a promotional tool that I built that calculates some discounts from various parameters. I'm looking for a way to create a payment based on the information generated by this tool. I can't seem to find an easy way to do this. Some payments will be attached to payment plans and some will not; s...

dcrider

Thank you for the update.

dcrider

Is there any place in the code where it would be possible to insert our own Enums? For example, we want to add some options to the "TreatPlanType" enum. We will be upgrading to 19.3 on January 18th, so it would be ideal if there was a hook or some other means already in place whereby we can add valu...

dcrider

Thank you for the quick reply!

dcrider

We are currently in the process of migrating our existing plugins to v19.3 in anticipation of us upgrading to that version once we've tested everything. One plugin references gridPayPlan.Rows.Count (gridPayPlan being an object of type ODGrid) and Visual Studio provides this error message: 'ODGrid' d...

dcrider

Thank you!

dcrider

Would it be possible to update

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Plugins.HookAddCode(this, "FormPayPlan.Load_end");

to have the PayPlan object added like so?

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Plugins.HookAddCode(this, "FormPayPlan.Load_end", _payPlanCur);

dcrider

That's fine. I don't actually need it, I just added it in case anyone else wanted to leverage that. You can just add that hook without PatCur.

dcrider

Looking through the API documentation, it appears that the API is only used to access information (and creating information). Our current use-case for Plugins is to modify the forms in OpenDental to more specifically fit our needs. Is that something that would ever be incorporated into the API?

dcrider

Good morning! We need the following hooks added please: if(Plugins.HookMethod(this, "FormPayPlan.butAdj_Click_beginning", PatCur, _listAdjustments, _listPayPlanCharges, _payPlanCur)) { return; } Plugins.HookAddCode(this, "FormPayPlan.Load_end", PatCur, IsNew); Plugins.HookAddCode(this, "FormPayPlan....

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