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Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by Rickliftig » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:27 am

Now that OD has the option to shut down all workstations, is there a way to invoke that command with a script so that there can be a timed shut down ie) at 5:30 each day?
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by enamelrod » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:14 am

or only allowing people to log on to only one computer at a time !

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Post by jordansparks » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:59 pm

The automatic shutdown sounds like a good addition to the automation framework, and a request would help keep track of it. Adding triggers and actions to the automation is not very difficult, so such requests are likely to get done quickly.

As for the one at a time, yes, that is certainly a goal.
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by SmilingPatient » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:42 pm

I regularly use multiple computers for multiple tasks... Also, our assistant (singular) goes from Tx room to Tx room making notes. It would not be that advantageous for us to have her log in again at every workstation...

Better to have a way to very clearly identify which user is logged in at any moment, perhaps in the menubar???
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by jordansparks » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:08 pm

SmilingPatient wrote:Better to have a way to very clearly identify which user is logged in at any moment, perhaps in the menubar???
It already does that. In the title bar, the same place where it says Open Dental.
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Post by SmilingPatient » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:19 pm

Excellent!
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by Rickliftig » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:54 am

Feature Request # 51
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by enamelrod » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:33 am

the ability to automatically allow a user to only use one computer at a time allows for the audit trail to be more accurate. Once you get to an office with lots of computer stations the probability of someone being logged on to multiple stations is high. I was logged on to one of the front desk computers for two days and never knew it. So it looks like i scheduled all these patients on the schedule. This function may also help with the messaging system being able to "follow" where an assistant is located.

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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by jamesx2 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:27 pm

I also like to log into a couple computers at the same time. It would make my life more difficult if I was restricted to one computer. Maybe you can add an indicator next to the persons name that is logged in so you can tell how many computers you are logged into.

Expample: Open Dental (Dr. Smith-2)

So now when Dr. Smith logs in, he will know he is logged into 2 computers.

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Post by jordansparks » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:16 pm

It would be customizable, of course, if we did it.
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by wjstarck » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:01 pm

Is there already a feature request for automatic logoff after x minutes of inactivity (customizable by the user)? That would be a nice addition, if it's not a feature request I'll add it as one....
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by enamelrod » Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:30 pm

since we are all talking about the logon functions.
and i have used all my request points on multipage scanning and a pdf functionality praying one day soon

I am making the following suggestions for the login
1. the ability to limit the number of computers a person can log into at a time, with the ability to auto log them off the computer they were previously logged onto. this probably require some way to return back to the previous activities they were doing on the computer?

2. A guest log in account for remote computer access. scenerio. I have one computer that is not in my computer network but does have access to OD database. This computer is logged in remotely by staff, and my specialist to see the schedule when they are away from the office. It is used to see the basic info such as schedule, pt chart and xrays and prescription hx, and schedule appointments. Also helps staff know who to call for post op and also for doctors to do their notes remotely

3. option to use windows login as the login for OD

4. fingerprint biometrics

5. timed inactivity logoff

thanks all

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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by jordansparks » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:47 pm

2. What would make this any different from a user called "guest"?
3. So it would allow login with no username or password, right? And it would be up to the IT manager to set Windows to log off? If Windows logs off due to inactivity, OD stays running? Hmm.

Oh, and pdf is clearly at the top of the priority list. What's unknown is whether Derek can get to that before we change gears and work on Canadian e-claims for a few months. I'd give it about even odds right now.
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by enamelrod » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:07 pm

2. the diff is this remote guess account could have different securities set so this account would not allow people to log off od and log back in using a different account.

3 yes

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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by jordansparks » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:19 pm

2. I still don't understand the difference. All I see in your description is yet another permission that prevents people from logging off. And I don't understand how that would be a useful permission. If you have the right username and password, shouldn't you be allowed to log in?
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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by enamelrod » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:26 am

i need to be able to better control the remote connected user. If just anyone can log off this remote account and log back on under a different user they could change whatever is given to them in there permissions. Certain permissions I have given to staff is also watched by other security methods, but having someone remote into the computer negates these other methods of security. If i had a remote account no one could log off of it except me. Having a different remote log in account would allow the admin to limit what remote users can do.

My thought is if this computer is registered as a remote user and someone attempted to log off and then back on, only certain users with remote user group permissions would be allowed to log on to this computer. I have tried several different ways to allow staff to be able to see the schedule from home and be able to look at patient records to call in rxs or handle small task remotely. I also need the ability for my oral surgeon and orthodontist to see the schedule and enter their notes also. all of this without allowing someone to wreck havoc on my financial information. I already had a former employee who would come in after hours to "work on accounts". Opening a remote connection would be a gold mine for those type people. Just having a new account with limited permissions doesnt cut it because you always have the ability to log off and then back on. If there was a permission that allowed an admin only to log off the computer. and also if any changes are made to moving appointments or entering notes then OD would ask for users' name and password to enter in correctly into the audit trail.

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Re: Auto Log-off/shutdown

Post by jordansparks » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:46 pm

Can't any user forcefully shut down OD? And after they do so, can't they log in under whatever account they have a password for? I've never heard of any security strategy that keeps people from logging off. Isn't that the opposite of the generally accepted security? Your oral surgeon can't log off and then log back on under a different user because they wouldn't have that password. Same goes for any other user. I will have to think about this some more, but I still don't get it.
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